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Mafia III afterthoughts
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Jason
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(Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:49 pm)
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Post     Mafia III afterthoughts

The thing I'd like to say most is that I thought this Mafia was a dream team in terms of avoiding suspicion, but their choices on kills and, in later Nights, inactivity, was some of the worst and most retarded ever. They needed one strong mind, which Morgan ALMOST was, in their midst, badly; but most of all they needed better communication.

The lesson to take is obviously: please don't sign up if you can't be available.
Yogurtman
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(Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:50 pm)
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Post     Re: Mafia III afterthoughts

Yeah, they probably should have won.
Derek Payne
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(Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:51 pm)
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They just weren't prepared to deal with my brilliant strategy.
Jason
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(Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:51 pm)
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Here are the notes from this game:

MAFIA III: Retribution

Mafia (4):
Spamdini
Morgan
Bounty
Jay

Godfather:
Bounty

Psychic:
Derek

Psaros:
Clotho

City Protector:
Vito

Blackmailer:
Andre

Gambler:
Rice

Heir:
Seika (10)
Peter (19)

Vigilante:
Mike, II

Reshuffle.

Lovers:
MADali
Theldorrin

Evil Soul:
Ace

Dead:
1. Vinny
2. Clotho
3. Meems
4. Theldorrin
5. Ace
6. MADali
7. Buis
8. Vito
9. Psaturn
10. Spamdini
11. Andre
12. Stefan
13. Bounty
14. Peter
15. Servbot
16. Jay
17. Morgan
18. Seika

Night One:
Vito protects Theldorrin
Derek scans Vito
Clotho scans Jay
Bounty converts Andre: Fail
Andre blackmails Spamdini: Soulliano
Clotho: Bounty, Spamdini, Jay, Morgan

Night Two:
Vito protects MADali
Derek scans Theldorrin
Bounty converts Vito: Fail
Theldorrin: Spamdini, Bounty, Jay, Morgan

Night Three:
Vito protects Mike
Mike shoots Vito
Derek scans Yogurtman
Bounty converts Derek: Fail
Psaturn: Jay, Bounty, Spamdini, Morgan

Night Four:
Bounty converts Mike: Fail
Derek scans Rice
Mike shoots Andre
Rice gambles on Andre
Magic Juan: Morgan, Jay, Seika

Night Five:
Derek scans Mike
Mike shoots Bounty
Derek: Morgan, Seika

Night Six:
Derek scans Mautty
Servbot: Morgan, Seika



As you can see, it was the luckiest break possible that Seika's inheritance number happened to be Spamdini's death number. No conversion was made throughout the game, but the possibility that there could be is why I made the starting Mafia such a small group, which probably worked to their advantage.
Rice
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(Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:52 pm)
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Post     Re: Mafia III afterthoughts

The game went from soul crushingly dull to the Daniel J. D'Arby fight very quickly!
FancyMichael
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(Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:52 pm)
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Post     Re: Mafia III afterthoughts

Give me a bit. I'll explain all of my decisions in a bit.
Theldorrin
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(Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:55 pm)
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They only seemed to be doing well because people assumed there were a lot more of them left than there were.

So I'm guessing that Seika didn't realize he had been converted to mafia, and that's why they didn't get their majority.
Theldorrin
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(Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:56 pm)
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Wait, no that's not right.
Jason
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(Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:57 pm)
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Maybe you should read the notes!

He started voting immediately and was the only reason they were able to kill on Night Six.
Yogurtman
Odin
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(Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:57 pm)
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So on night five they needed either Bounty or Jay to vote?
Jason
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(Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:59 pm)
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Yes.

Interesting to note that, without realizing it, Bounty tried to convert four people with roles that would have helped them the most! It was crazy!

When he tried for Andre on Night One, I thought he might be cheating, so I asked him why and he said "To fuck with Morgan."

That's when I realized that this Mafia team was retarded.
My Head Hurts 90
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(Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:00 pm)
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The only reason I was suspicious of Derek was because he had named me and Seika (who had basically been a townsperson like 9/10 of the game) as two of the remaining mafia.

But hey, it worked out in the end.
Theldorrin
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(Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:03 pm)
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Your reasoning to kill Derek first was correct. If he was lying than he could have tricked the townspeople into killing you, Seika and Yogurtman, which would probably have resulted in a mafia win.
My Head Hurts 90
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(Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:06 pm)
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EXACTLY. I know it's easy to believe him when you're one of the guys who gets named townsperson, but that shit looked ridiculously shady especially considering that he retardedly lived after outing rice.
Derek Payne
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(Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:06 pm)
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Not really, I had dropped enough hints throughout the game that would've backed up my claim as the psychic later on.

Making wild accusations against inactive players helped keep the mafia from killing me earlier.
Jason
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(Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:07 pm)
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So how soon does everyone want to start a vanilla, no roles, townspeople vs. Mafia game?

Activity will be enforced, so I'd like a significantly smaller number of players this time.
Theldorrin
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(Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:08 pm)
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If he was telling the truth then signs would have pointed to all three of you being mafia. And that's especially odd considering he didn't scan any actual mafia members (a quick way of confirming whether he is telling the truth).
Vinny
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(Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:09 pm)
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No roles?!

Why can't you just use LESS CRAZY ROLES like just Psychic, just City Protector, and just Vigilante (with a max of 3 bullets, no gaining).
Vinny
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(Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:09 pm)
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Of course, I'm really fucking sick and tired of being a townsperson over and over and over.
My Head Hurts 90
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(Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:09 pm)
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I think I just placed too much emphasis on the mafia allowing him to live, but you can't blame me for that.
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