Dragon Ball Z Uncensored

[My Head Hurts 90]

The only evidence that you could even use for Trayvon being a "thug" is the graffiti/jewelry incident. Everything else is shit that every kid does, namely smoking weed and not showing up for all your classes (196 tardies my senior year!). Of course, it's these kinds of specious associations that lead to bullshit stereotypes. At least it hasn't hurt anyone yet!

This won't really matter, because you've already outed yourself as a piece of garbage (the gold grill as some kind of damning piece of evidence is fucking hilarious), so I don't know why I'm even bothering.

[ALDP]

Look you guys, Chris being a racist is between me and him. I don't see why you're diagramming my battle here.

[Magic Juan]

oh look now chris was trolling all long lol sixth sense troll lol

[ALDP]

Fourth most fucked up thing indeed.

I wonder how many people with their hoodies and candlelight vigils have actually looked into their sweet baby Trayvon, and what he actually left behind of himself on Twitter and Facebook.

I wonder how their "emotions" about this would change if they saw him thuggin it up, his gold grill, enthusiasm for streetfighting, his misogyny, the stolen jewelry found in his backpack, history of delinquency, and what he tried to buy along with his Skittles and "iced tea".

They're never going to be aware of any of that though because people stay in their gated thought-communities where none of that is talked about. The sources of this information are almost 100% conservative outlets, and, oh shit, conservatives!!!

How about that final hour where the bloodthirsty George Zimmerman emerged from the shadows, roared "WHITE POWER!!!", and shot the innocent boy point-blank in the head? Right? That's what happened, right?

But listen to the music! He's evil!

The media cooked the absolute shit out of this whole event to troll the populace, all the way back to the very first days with the phone calls edited specifically to add racism (fucking literally "sweet, sweet can" in real life), and nobody has any real goddamn clue about this event that they feel so strongly about. Troll successful.

This is not Emmett Till all over again, and it is such an insult to Emmett, and James Byrd, et al, to conflate them as if the situations were anywhere close.

Trayvon was a thug. Or at least a thug-in-training. No Limit Nigga. I have no problem entertaining the shocking proposition that maybe George Z was (gasp) actually telling the truth and that Trayvon went back and jumped him of his own volition. Given uncensored information and a more balanced view of the kid, it could easily be true. That doesn't mean he deserved what he got, but fuck.

The point is, I don't know, and nobody else does either. Reasonable goddamn doubt. It's like people only understand the concept when it suits them, and the understanding magically shuts off when it doesn't.

"Not so long ago, many black people were comfortable refusing to allow that O.J. Simpson was a murderer based on hairs slightly out of place in the prosecution’s case. They almost excessively understood the concept of reasonable doubt. It shouldn’t be too hard to understand the jury’s decision here on the same basis."

Holy shit, Time Magazine??? I'm shocked.

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Someone's going to need to diagram my post for "racism," and my finding fault with THUG LYFE doesn't count.

I would be saying exactly the same thing about this kid if he were a WHITE thug. I guarantee it.

But, alas, I criticized a situation involving a black person and a subculture associated with black people, so I'm fucked now. I am a horrible racist. I was 99% certain that my post would be interpreted as being about race, as opposed to thuggery, but I held out hope that it wouldn't. OH WELL.

The social media evidence that Trayvon was a hoodlum is very, very important. It is a linchpin for thinking about all of this, because it goes a long way in backing up Zimmerman's account of being re-stalked and ambushed (an account which, by the way, passed a voice-stress test with flying colors). It reveals Trayvon as someone at least possibly capable of/inclined toward doing that, fucking RACE notwithstanding.

Pretend for a minute that what George Z. said was true. What would you think of all this then? It seems like nobody is doing that, even though his story jibes with the evidence and stood up to lie-detector scrutiny. (Of course, you CAN'T say "maybe he's innocent" anywhere, because everyone just screams and calls you a racist, so anyone even willing to entertain that idea has to either stay completely silent or go someplace where they have nothing to lose - FTU in my case.)

Anyway, while you're diagramming me for racism (and I know you can do it effortlessly because now FTU has "evolved", with the help of WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL POSTMODERNIST COLLEGE CULTURAL ANALYSIS, to the levels of highly-advanced hypersensitive interpretive strawmanned racism that I would come here specifically to escape while suffering through postmodern college cultural analysis), assuming that ALDP is the diagrammer, by all means, continue to profile me based on the mold of a socio-ethno-economic caste that you dislike and perceive me to match up to, expressing your disgust and contempt for that caste and with me for being a part of it, because that's not a double-standard.

Funny that the guy most obsessed with the evils of stereotyping and reducing people to group-representative icons is also the most hyperactive about doing that to others when he perceives them as being from the wrong side of the political tracks.

(Also, be sure to remind MADali that his culture is a barbaric shitworld the next time you see him, because Middle Easterners are one of the many groups that lie outside of the extremely selective ALDP whiteknight defense shield.)

The hypocrisy is fantabulous.

I've said repeatedly that George Z. was a fuckhead too, and could write a screed on that if you like, but there's plenty of those, and that's my point. It was wanna-be cop vs. wanna-be thug. But all you hear about is "wanna-be cop." vs. a 12 year old Calvin-like sweetheart who was killed for being black.

I actually do think it should have gone to trial without a trial having to be demanded, and it is fucked up that it didn't.

A verdict of manslaughter would not have unreasonable to me either, at least given my understanding of what legally constitutes "manslaughter" (careless neglect, don't ask).

[Magic Juan]

The social media evidence that Trayvon was a hoodlum is very, very important. It is a linchpin for thinking about all of this, because it goes a long way in backing up Zimmerman's account of being re-stalked and ambushed (an account which, by the way, passed a voice-stress test with flying colors).

[Roy]

Can we at least agree that black people constantly smoke marijuana?

[Jason]

All hoodlums must die.
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[Clotho]

I like where Chris is going with this

[Fagzilla]

I will admit that I am using many of the same arguments that the racists are using, but just because they're the same arguments doesn't automatically mean that I am using them racistly or from a place of racism.

My main point here is that too many people seem to be superpolar on this incident, and it's disheartening and harmful.

All I can think is, "what if George Z. is telling the truth? How fucked is this if he is?"

He's driving by, neighborhood watching, spots somebody (whose race he wasn't even able to conclusively determine) wandering about in an area where there have been a bunch of recent burglaries (by blacks, so even if he WAS able to determine and "profile" Trayvon's blackness, it's actually "matches description of specific suspect I am watching for", as opposed to general racism, so it doesn't count as profiling). He checks it out, gets ambushed, his ass beat, ends up in a struggle for his gun, then uses it as an absolute last measure (and well past the point that many would have, by the way).

If he's telling the truth, he's been demonized unfairly and has to fear for his safety for the rest of his life.

It's not good for anyone to believe that he racially-profiled the kid, stalked him, then shot him in cold blood. People should avoid coming to that conclusion, short of very strong evidence that it's true. It's divisive, socially-destructive and makes everyone who believes it angry.

As for all this thug stuff and how racist it makes me, whatever, Bill Cosby (who is pretty much my hero when it comes to commentary on black issues) says all the exact same shit. Is he racist too?

[Bladtman]

Just admit you couldn't really care less about the plight of one George Zimmerman (who will be just fine and will have numerous TV appearances and book deals forthcoming) and just adopted this stance because you get off on playing devil's advocate.


At any rate my job is done here

[Utils]

Fuck you, Psaros.

[Fagzilla]

It's Utils!!!

I was thinking about you the other day Utils.

[Jason]

"Legalize killing niggers." - Bill Cosby
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[Utils]

Why, was your computer not working?