Dragon Ball Z Uncensored

[L Ron Butterfly]

!!!!

"Well, of course I do. Those stupid Pollacks! Ha ha ha ha!"

[Theldorrin]

His use of reductio ad absurdum proves that he's right, and also that you're an ignorant, racist piece of shit.

[Ryoko's Biatch]

Oh my God.

[Servbot]

Theldorrin.

[L Ron Butterfly]

This may come as a shock to Theldorrin, but communication between people isn't math (I know, to you, everything's math, but) in the real, non-constantly-hypothetical world, using a reductio ad absurdum argument is admitting that you are ill-equipped to deal with the specifics of a certain argument and would rather generalize to the point of frivolity.

[Theldorrin]

Reductio ad absurdum is a style of argument, and when you're having an argument, using an actual argument is absolutely appropriate.

You are wrong about almost everything you post about, and are the stupidest person on the forum. Stop posting.

[L Ron Butterfly]

Your style completely relies upon having a menacing wizard right under your name.

Change it to a kitten or a teddy bear (or a picture of your swollen, acne-scarred face), and then maybe we can have this discussion.

Also, your second sentence contains two arguable grammatical errors. Stop posting (again).

Or just confine your posting to only one thread.

[Big Fagot]

That's a terrible definition of racism. What does it mean for a race to be inferior, and what does it mean to believe that? I could make one identical twin much smarter than the other by giving it more mental stimulation during infancy. Decades later, is the dumber one now inferior? What if I consciously believe all races are equal (whatever that means) but feel afraid and uncomfortable when I see a black person?

Racism is believing things about individuals based on their race.

[Servbot]

White people can't dance.

[My Head Hurts 90]

OH NYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[My Head Hurts 90]

Also:

It is simply impossible to really convince anybody that a negative reaction to a word like "shorty" denoting females reflects some genuine problem with the term's accuracy and not a general aversion to black American language. If you have an aversion to black American language, then you have an aversion to black American culture. If you have an aversion to black American culture, then why? Is it becuase you consider it inferior? Is it because you consider black Americans inferior?

[L Ron Butterfly]

Well, the first definition of racism on dictionary.com is almost a perfect combination of our two definitions.

That is, if a healthy amount of intelligence is read into your definition (a service I doubt you would return me).

Believing things about individuals based on their race?

Define THINGS. Like physical features?

I had an English professor who was obsessed with accusing Mark Twain of being racist, and he defined racism as the belief that one race was superior to another.

In some ways, this is a better definition than "a doctrine that inherent differences among races determine individual and cultural acheivments."

Because, as your twin analogy suggests, you do not believe people of African descent to be inherently inferior or less intelligent than people of European (Asian, etc.) descent, but you do seem to nurture an idea that people of African descent in the United States of America are generally less capable of utilizing or developing their intellectual ability because of their circumstances (education, etc..). This is a sentiment with which I strongly disagree and consider to be another facet of time-honored white racism (or at least culturism/ethnocentrism which is arguably just racism) that has degenerated many members of the white population beyond their understanding.


I won't deny that my own reasoning is probably wrought with error, even personal prejudice and condescension. But your forced nonchalance (the silly analogy, the lazy definition of racism held up as better than mine) do not make you look especially enlightened on the matter.

In fact, rather than coming off as the all-knowing cybersnob whose frustration with the barely literate masses forces him to resort to dense sarcasm and absurd arguments, you are more like a weak, frightened man leaning on his crutch of assumed superiority, hoping that his old formula is still working.

[Big Fagot]

* Being desperately poor, especially during childhood, has physiological and psychological effects that pose a statistical obstacle to that group achieving as much as [all other people].

* Some races have more of a problem with desperate poverty than others.

Part of being liberal and thinking collectively is acknowledging the obvious truth that there are such things as sociological factors and cultural inertia.

[L Ron Butterfly]

There's a difference between being less intelligent and less succesful.

Some of the most intelligent people I've ever met were black line cooks. They gave me a different perspective on life. They acted with assertive immediacy in social situations. They could speak both "proper English" and black dialect fluently. Some could also speak Spanish and (mostly the older ones) "Cajun" French. They existed in an environment where nobody could be easily trusted, and they were forced to make strong instantaneous yet flexible judgements on character. They were always much quicker to "get it" than I was, whatever "it" happened to be in a given situation.

Most of them were born desparately poor and were working on developing brand new desparately poor children. That they as well as their children were faced with a statistical obstacle was not arguable. But cultural intertia? It's hard to say they suffered from that.

"Cultural inertia" is more prevalent in the white community than in the black community. However, my saying this introduces a different line of argument rather than countering yours.

Pizzarino, I would personally go with the last option. This guy lived among white people because black people knew better than to trust him.

This guy's skin tone is his least suspicious physical feature. His fucked up teeth (the front two stained yellow possibly from a meth pipe) and noticeably crossed eyes even when partially obscured by glases are far more obvious red flags.

[Big Fagot]

You know what is racist, is that new Clint Eastwood movie where he fights to defend decency against "gangbangers".

Has that word ever been used except to mean "teenagers from the lower races"?

[MADali]

I can never hear that word and not think of "people who engage in gangbang sex"

[L Ron Butterfly]

The idea of a "street gang" effectively takes the focus off actual crime and places it on young minorities congregating.

[My Head Hurts 90]

This thread reminds of that time Vinny went to diversity class.

[L Ron Butterfly]

Was that when his teacher said that it was impossible for minorities to be racist because only people with power can be racist?

[cloacal kiss]

Punkasss, an aversion to black American language is not equivalent to an aversion to black American culture. Of course it isn't a good sign if somebody hears the word "shorty" and immediately snorts and goes "Jesus, half the time I can't even tell what they're talking about," but that indication of racism was not given (sincerely) at any point in this thread.
But yeah you aren't defending black culture very well if you're saying incomprehensible rap slang is every bit as quintessential as, I dunno, whatever that well-spoken buck had to say about a dream deterred.

Also "Everyone, white fetishization of blacks is totally dissimilar from white fetishization of orientals" is pretty true and I've got severe deja vu from reading it!