Dragon Ball Z Uncensored

[Fagzilla]

Is anybody here vegetarian or vegan? Have we talked about this here within the last half-decade?

Lexy is a skinny little vegan sissy now, and it's a pain in the ass and made me sad and I felt hurt, abandoned, and betrayed by her shift from the default "whatever" position to radicalization and ideology, but I'm getting used to that from the people in my life if you know what I mean, hehe.

Having said that, I can (now) definitely respect veganism and think that it's a strong position with multiple fallback redundancies. Whether you want to argue for it on the basis of health, suffering-abatement, ecological concerns, resource optimization, you name it, you can remove any one, or even multiple, support columns and the structure will still remain standing without a problem (unlike on 9/11 amirite?)

So which of you pussy-ass bacon haters is mocking God in this way and why? LOL, bacon!

[Jason]

It's so nice to see your principles collapse with the slightest exposure to opposing viewpoints from someone you can't compartmentalize as a stupid liberal on Facebook.
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[Jason]

Good job not returning, by the way!
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[Big Fagot]

[Big Fagot]

I'm pretty much a vegetarian. I ordered a pizza a few days ago and they accidentally gave me an extra meat one. I kept it in the refrigerator as a form of denial but I think I'll throw it out now.

[Mike Dunn]

I don't have a solid argument in favor of the meat industry. I pretty much completely agree with vegans that eating factory farmed meat is unethical. But I'm a weak addicted babby so I still eat meat anyway.

[Ryoko's Biatch]

If animals didn't want to be eaten, they would stop being delicious.

Checkmate, vegans.

[Big Fagot]

I still eat fish basically because if someone told me "hey, the guy who kills the fish is sick today, can you shove this live fish face first into a blender?" I'd be all "yeah, so to be clear you definitely don't want tail first?"

[Jason]

FTU used to make fun of me for being a vegan, even after I stopped being one. Good thing now everyone is a politically correct, thought policing SJW.

Eating meat is immoral.
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[Fagzilla]

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[Big Fagot]

Welp, I don't imagine anyone will be contributing a stupider viewpoint than that, ever.

[Big Fagot]

That was my placeholder reply.

[Big Fagot]

Hey, how about that pedantic correction about "stupider" not being a word? Almost as bad as "electrocute"!

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[Fagzilla]

[Big Fagot]

I get what you mean about it being theoretically possible to kill animals humanely but I don't think that any profit maximizing enterprise could ever achieve that under any system of ethics that would leave room to do the killing at all. How do you go "we care super hard about these animals so therefore we need to be really careful how we go about creating millions of them so they can die for us and make our cheese plates more interesting"?

[Big Fagot]

Even just the part where you create them, and wrench them out of the peaceful perfection of nonexistence into this world of cancer and diarrhea, is immoral.

I guess at least the billions and billions and billions of animal lives that are involved are nothing compared to the swelling tide of AI suffering that will soon overwhelm our species' collective moral ledger.

[Ryoko's Biatch]

Beyond avoiding unnecessary suffering, applying morality to eating animals seems like a bottomless pit. Appeals to the natural order don't really work because we can and have come up with better ways to do or avoid the "natural" is so many circumstances, but meat is something we fucking desire to consume. Meat tastes good because our body wants those fuckin' nutrients. I know we can get most of the same nutrients from non-meat sources, but meat tastes better and I selfishly value that above animals. It's probably a shitty way to look at it, but fuck it.

Personally, when I eat meat, I try to eat all of it just so their deaths are slightly less pointless.

[Fagzilla]

It's also useful to remember the gulf between the human mind and the mind of the animals that we eat. It's easy to accidentally anthropomorphize these dipshits.

Our horrible brains offer many more ways to suffer than that of a cow, who won't even react to a dead cow on the ground next to him, let alone understand that he'll eventually be dead too, or what "dead" even means.

The animals we eat don't have a care in the world. They can experience pain, and emotions, which should be considered (I guess), but that's about it. They don't have any concept of what it means to exist or not exist, or to experience any sort of apprehension or fear of non-existence. It's something to envy really.

And for that, they should be killed.

[Utils]

I was from 2012 to late 2016. I did it for health reasons, not moral reasons.

The simplest way to explain it is if during that time frame you offered me meat from an animal you hunted and killed yourself I would eat it without hesitation. On the other hand the thought of eating meat from the supermarket made me sick just to think about.

Why did I stop? It's complicated but sufficed to say there's no vegan option in the [SLEEPAWAY CAMP]. You eat what they serve you and there's no substitute for the meat they serve. They don't give veg options. I abstained from eating meat at [SLEEPAWAY CAMP] for as long as I could. But then very recently I had a critical PT test coming up and I felt like if I didn't eat meat my performance would suffer. so I did it.

I kinda never stopped. This was in June. Since then I've been giving less of a shit about my health/body. It's not good. I gained 15 pounds.

I need to watch Humans and shock myself out of this slump.

But yeah, never in that time did I demonize others for continuing to eat meat.