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My Head Hurts 90 · (Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:03 am)

30s and 40s soley because of jazz and Rachmaninoff. If you're talking about strictly pop music than I think it has to be late 50s/early 60s.

Mike Dunn · (Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:20 am)

Big Band music from the 30s and 40s is pretty cool. Gene Krupa's drumming is fun to listen to.

Action Hank · (Tue Sep 09, 2014 3:42 pm)

Gershwin goes back to the 20s and 30s, if you like the music of stuff like Anything Goes or Porgy and Bess. Threepenny Opera is from the 1920s, and that's where Mack the Knife comes from.

Before that, there's Ragtime. And there is always Folk music.

And are you classifying Opera as part of Classical music? Because all of the stuff I listed above could be considered the popular music of its time, even if its not what we think of today when we think of pop music.

ALDP · (Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:21 pm)

I enjoy a lot of music written in the 20s and earlier but I generally don't listen to recordings from before the 30s because they sound too shitty. The only exception I can think of is Louis Armstrong's Hot Five and Seven sessions. Like they still sound like shit, but I listen to them anyways.

I listen to the Ink Spots and the Mills Brothers pretty often, they both did their best stuff in the 30s.

I guess the main gap in my listening is the 40s because I don't listen to swing, bop, or whatever else was popular in the 40s.

Jason · (Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:06 pm)

"Jazz" is just "jizz" with one letter switched!
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MADali · (Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:24 am)

I hope you guys are not just naming bands you have listened to once or twice. I mean listen to on the same level as you would listen to an album or a band from a more recent period. I guess Matt clarified that he does that, and I am sure MHH probably also listens to to jazz from that era seriously since he was always a bit of a jazz nerd.

But I'm not sure about Mike and Action Hank.

Big Fagot · (Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:05 am)

I'm really into a lot of jazz songs that are in TV commercials.

PokemonHentaiMaster · (Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:33 am)

I like Paul Anka. I also think Elvis' 50s songs are better than his newer ones, plus he looked cooler back then (before the jumpsuits and the fatness).

Mike Dunn · (Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:22 am)

I listened to a decent amount of Benny Goodman/Gene Krupa big band recordings when I was immersing myself in jazz in my first couple years of college. I haven't listened in years though.

PokemonHentaiMaster · (Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:41 am)

JAZZ, NEVER!!

Action Hank · (Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:05 am)

I used to really be into jazz, but that was at least 10 years ago. I still listen to a number of records when I write, because it is good work music.

However, I was trying to list stuff that was easiest to get into, since that was the discussion. If the question had been about rock, than I'd have recommended the Beatles. There is a reason why artists such as Miles Davis and John Coltrane are the most popular---like the Beatles---they're the best at their genre, and the best entering point. Giant Steps is the equivalent of She Loves You.

Mike Dunn · (Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:51 am)

It's really wack that Robert Christgau doesn't like Black Sabbath.

ALDP · (Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:19 am)

I'm pretty sure Black Sabbath was roundly despised by critics. What's cool about Christgau is that he gets his point across in a single bitchy paragraph!

One of my favorite reviews by him is him shitting all over Jethro Tull.

Aqualung [Reprise, 1971]
Ian Anderson is like the town free thinker. As long as you're stuck in the same town yourself, his inchoate cultural interests and skeptical views on religion and human behavior are refreshing, but meet up with him in the city and he can turn out to be a real bore. Of course, he can also turn out to be Bob Dylan--it all depends on whether he rejected provincial values out of a thirst for more or out of a reflexive (maybe even somatic) negativism. And on whether he was pretentious only because he didn't know any better. C+

MADali · (Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:22 am)

Aqualung is one of the best albums ever.

ALDP · (Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:38 am)

I believe it's very UNJAZZ to consider Kind of Blue great background music. Also that's a very tenuous analogy between Davis/Coltrane and the Beatles. Early Beatles were innovative because they used 6th chords in their rock songs, (any pioneering jazz musician) was innovative because they completely exploded the prevailing forms and styles.

Kind of Blue is a good entry point because it's modal so you don't have to keep up with the rapid chord changes in bop. I would recommend Blue Train long before Giant Steps.

Mike Dunn · (Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:17 pm)

Christgau didn't even review any of the albums after Master of Reality. He missed some good shit!

Action Hank · (Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:04 pm)

Well then.

ALDP · (Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:50 am)

Go fuck yourself.

Big Fagot · (Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:22 am)

Jeez!

ALDP · (Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:35 am)